Frak it

Jun. 1st, 2005 09:08 pm
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Damn, now the Netherlands voted against the European constitution. This is stupid. We need to unify, Europe needs to grow stronger and t his constitution would be a good thing. If UK says no to it too, we're frakked. Europe will receive a huge blow and go backward, not forward. There is no back up plan if we don't agree to this. Mistakes can still be corrected, but we'd have a common ground to start from. Argh!

Date: 2005-06-01 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacksrubberduck.livejournal.com
I hate to break it to you but opinion polls in the UK have so far shown that we're against it.

And have to say personally I am too.

Yes for some countries the constitution is the way forward but what doesn't seem to be considered is that it might not be the way forward for all of Europe.

Date: 2005-06-01 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylo1012.livejournal.com
We dont really need the UK, France and Holland are 2 of the 6 funding members of the EU there for the constitution is rejected

to be honest, there should have been a back up plan , the big dudes shouldnt have been so ignorant to think they can rule Europe without getting any resistance from its people.

Date: 2005-06-01 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stef94.livejournal.com
It's a trend.. it's all interconnected..
This is going to be one huge string of gross generalisations, but here's my theory:
We feel threatened by our immigrant neighbours because they did not integrate into our society. Instead of fitting in, they desperately clung to their own culture and now form a quite seperate group that's only part of our society in a small way.
Because of this, our country is loosing its national identity, the 'native' people feel they're loosing their national identity. Because, if half the people in a country are of a different religious persuasion, and have very different, almost irreconcilable cultural habits, that collide with the religion and culture that were originally in a country, what =is= the national identity?
And in comes Europe, with it's new and unifying constitution. Uniting all these different countries, making them one.. well, metaphorically speaking anyway.. cos Europe becoming one? With the French and the Germans and the Brits? Never in a million years.
But still, just the idea of "making Europe one" is terrifying for a country that feels like it's lost its national identity..

So they vote no.. and put the EU back 20 years.. and ensure that the US will be the biggest world power for a long long time..
And that's =really= scary.. and one of many reasons why I voted yes..

Sorry about the rant.. I think I may have to link to it on my own LJ ;-)

Date: 2005-06-02 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashism.livejournal.com
Most people I've talked to either haven't heard of this EU constitution or the only thing they know about it is that some folks in Europe are getting antsy because France and Holland have voted No. I have no idea personally on how it will affect me as an individual or my country, if I had to go vote about it tomorrow I'd be stuck, I'm just not being offered enough/any information about it.

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