*eyes flist*

[woodface]

Guys, no christmas before Saint Nicholas. *shakes head*

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[mylo1012.livejournal.com]

thank you

[woodface]

It's an official rule here that stores can't use any christmas decorations until Sinterklaas has passed. I wish the whole world would keep up with that because I tend to grow sick and tired of the whole thing if I need to stand a whole month of holiday "spirit".

[tv-elf.livejournal.com]

Dude. This year the decorations started popping up on Halloween weekend! It was sad.

[woodface]

Ugh. That's just dumb.

[mylo1012.livejournal.com]

same here, no x-mas crap till after coming sunday, which also means that me being the one that has to work saturday gets to take all the sinterklaas stuff off and all the x-mas on ,which is gonna be hell ofcourse with all the lights and commercial happiness

ofcourse there are always those who have their x-mas gear all stalled out already in their homes

so i dont like x-mas ..........

[woodface]

Awwwwwww *knuffels*

[mylo1012.livejournal.com]

ty:)

come to think of it the chocolade letters were in the store in september and last monday we had to order the easter stuff already

when did we get so screwed up??

[woodface]

Chocolate letters?

[liminalliz.livejournal.com]

AMERICA SUXXXORZZZ!!!!

ETERNALLY EPISCOPALIAN! We don't sing Christmas hymns till CHRISTMAS DAY, OMFG!

[woodface]

OMFG, I don't sing at all!

But I shall have to play my Loreena McKennitt cd early as I shall be abroad =oO

[liminalliz.livejournal.com]

I sing all the time! (was just singing Jingle Bell Rock as I hear it EVERYWHERE now and I love that song thanks to Freakin Home Alone)

Lorenna! My Honey! :loves:

[mylo1012.livejournal.com]

you dont have those??

its the basic of every good sinterklaas (well together with pepernoten en taai taai)

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

Can you tell that to our stores? And back it up with a large blunt instrument of some kind?

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

You and everyone else who isn't All About Selling Crap. *sigh*

Or in rehearsal. When I worked at the ballet? Sick of Nutcracker by the end of October...

[woodface]

Bah, they really stop shoving it down everyone's throat so we can enjoy when it actually is christmas.

[woodface]

I could try but sadly enough the whole not believing in Saint Nicholas might make it a bit hard. *shakes head at americans who refuse to recognise the best saint of them all*

[woodface]

Euhm nee, wij hebben voornamelijk speculaas, mandarijntjes, marsepijn, chocolade geld enzo

[woodface]

The only song I sometimes sing is Rudolph the Rednosed raindeer but mostly somewhere in march and I don't know the complete lyrics.

I adore Loreena McKennitt =o)

[liminalliz.livejournal.com]

"you can even say it glowed" "LIKE A LIGHTBULB!!!"

[woodface]

*pats* There there, it will be alright.

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

The sad part is, the "holiday shopping season" used to start the day after Thanksgiving. It's still considered pretty major. But that doesn't stop the malls from breaking out the decorations and music at the beginning of November.

The fact that they're making money on Halloween is the only barrier to their pushing it even further. :-PPP

[woodface]

That's probably while they're trying to introduce Halloween here. We don't have thanksgiving either so basically those months are without any profit making days (except for All Saints but that's only for flowers). They made a pact here in Belgium that forbids all stores to use Saint Nicholas before november 11 (Saint Martin but he is only celebrated in a very limited part of the country), Santa can only be introduced after december 6 (St Nicholas). I'm grateful for it.

(Btw, Santa is only a recent development. As a kid I never believed in him as he's basically a copy of Saint Nicholas. December 6 is meant for kids and they get presents then. Christmas is a family day with presents from the family only. Maybe Saint Nicholas would be a solution for americans too to keep christmas out of the stores for a while longer.)

[mylo1012.livejournal.com]

die hebben wij ook maar het is geen sinterklaas zonder chocolade letter

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

As a kid I never believed in him as he's basically a copy of Saint Nicholas.

Not just a copy -- when I was a kid, I was told they were the same person. :-) Who put little things in our shoes on St Nicholas eve (that one from my mom's German-American family, even though I'm about the fifth generation here), and brought one bigger present on Christmas.

Maybe Saint Nicholas would be a solution for americans too to keep christmas out of the stores for a while longer.)

If only. They'd just use it as an excuse to start EARLIER, since the actual days falls sooner. And our government would make a law interfering in any way with capitalism, on the basis of what is considered here to be only a religious holiday, and a minor one at that.

The only reason they recognize Christmas is that it was already a cultural tradition, and not just a religious one, by the time we had a government. No other religion-based holiday is a government holiday.

If the stores had just stuck with the darn "after Thanksgiving" tradition, it would be much less annoying. One month, most of us can take.

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

Alas, at the ballet there was no choice. Lots of young 'uns in the production = lots of rehearsal.

[woodface]

Santa is definitely a copy in my mind (and a cheaper one at that cause the good Saint has way prettier clothes).

See, it's not a holiday here either. No one gets the day off. It's just exciting to be kid. You get candy and toys in the morning. On a school day he will drop by with his servants and it will just be fun. Capitalism will gain from it.

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

(and a cheaper one at that cause the good Saint has way prettier clothes).

*chuckle* Blame the Victorians for that one. Not our fault.

On a school day he will drop by with his servants and it will just be fun. Capitalism will gain from it.

Oh, good God/dess, I can just imagine the hullaballoo THAT would produce.

"We can't take away class time for some foreign thing!"

"How DARE you subject my child to a religious figure?!?"

And so on, and so on, and so on...

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

way prettier clothes).

Plus, those are his GOOD clothes. The red getup is washable, and generally vastly superior for dealing with chimneys. Very sensible guy. ;-)

[woodface]

*rolls eyes* Sinterklaas doesn't get dirty! Duh!

[woodface]

"How DARE you subject my child to a religious figure?!?"

Bwahahahaha. Hey, it might satisfy those who think there should be more prayer in school. Besides, it's grown way beyong a religious thing.

Bwah, I just have a huge soft spot for Saint Nicholas. I think any child here has. He gives presents, yo! And he's really kind. One of our belgian celebrities started a show about Saint Nicholas and one of the most famous belgian actors plays the saint. He is just amazing. He is so in character. A few weeks ago we had the official arrival of the saint in Antwerps and the actor was there too. The way he does it is just unbelievable, I'm even convinced he's the one real Saint Nicholas.

Sorry, rambling.

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

With American kids sitting on his lap? Puh-leeeeeze.

Plus, the red suit is all cuddly.

[woodface]

He doesn't mind that, he loves kids. I was talking about the chimney ;oP

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

Hey, it might satisfy those who think there should be more prayer in school.

Well, the ones who wouldn't consider it idolatrous. *wry g* Which is most of them, probably. The conservative activists tend to come from denominations that aren't real keen on saints in general.

And see, all this is the same attachment American kids have to Santa. I'm telling you, same guy. :-D

[woodface]

I'm telling you, same guy. :-D

Now that's idolatrous. *scowls*

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

Tell it to my Catholic mom, hon. :-)

[wiliqueen.livejournal.com]

Mmmmmmm. Marzipan.

:: doesn't speak Dutch, but can pick out yummy words... ::

[woodface]

*laughs*

[elly427.livejournal.com]

*Eyes you suspiciously*

EUROPEAN! J'accuse!

[woodface]

Yeah and damn proud of it.

Je m'en fou!